Minutes of the Ad Hoc Airport Advisory Committee 6/15/97 The Little River Airport Ad Hoc Airport Advisory Committee met on Sunday, 15 June 1997 from 4:00 - 6:00 pm in the Clubhouse at The Woods, 43300 Little River Airport Road, Little River. Five committee members were present: Joel Bornstein, Trey Loy, Tim Scully, Fran Tucker and Ray Yates. Grant Wheeler, Dick Ahrens, Diana Scully, Gail Diamond and Dave Brewer also attended. Andy Becker was present for the last part of the meeting. We agreed that the next Ad Hoc meeting will take place Sunday, June 29 from 4-6pm at the Woods. Minutes ------- The minutes of the last meeting were approved. Joel had one correction, Trimble, not Garmin. Reports on recent events ------------------------ Tim reported that he had written to DPW on behalf of LRAPA, offering to help with noise abatement signs and/or with mailing the policy to the publishers of pilot guides. Norma, Clerk of the Board, told Tim that the Health, Welfare, Planning and Transportation Committee meets on 6/16 and that the official Airport Advisory Committee resolution in on the agenda for 11:30. She said it is agendized for only a few minute so the HWP&T can refer Peter Klein's May 20th draft to the full Board. We don't need to attend. The two metal underground fuel tanks at the airport were removed last week. Only the 12,000 gallon plastic tank is left. No replacement tanks were installed, the hole was just filled in. The #2 gas pump is now inoperative because it isn't connected to a tank. Joel expressed concern about the #2 pump being disconnected. We agreed that it would be better if it could be connected to the 12,000 gallon tank before the area is paved over. Grant suggested telephoning DPW about this. There also was some discussion of how the removal, without replacement, of the smaller fuel tanks, is a clear statement of non-expansion at the airport. This also forcloses any easy way of making jet fuel available. Hopefully this will reassure some of the airport's neighbors. Dick reported that Andy (the Airport Supervisor) told him that contract negotiations were proceeding in a friendly atmosphere. Trey suggested that perhaps we should contact Stan Townsend about adding the altimeter reading the the new contract. GPS Report ---------- Trey suggested that we should call Norma before the HWP&T meeting on Monday the 16th, to let her know that we want to agendize the GPS report for their next meeting, if possible. Dave Brewer suggested getting the written report into the Supervisor's hands as soon as possible, before the meeting, so they can review it. After some discussion, we agreed to send it to the Supervisors only after we have reviewed the completed report, with appendices, and are satisfied with it. Tim asked how many copies to make for our next meeting, explaining that the copying costs will mount up with all the appendices. He estimated it will cost about $5 per copy [and this didn't take into account the color maps in Appendix K]. Fran suggested letting the County make copies. Trey enumerated the minimum copies we need to make: DPW, the 2 Supervisors, their clerk, and at least one for us to review. Tim asked if we could agree to switch to the "change page" mode, where the page numbers are frozen and we only make minor edits that involve replacing individual pages instead of reproducing the entire report. The committee agreed. Gail Diamond suggested sending the summary to the Beacon for publication. She also suggested asking the Beacon to tell people how to buy copies of the complete report. We agreed that these were good ideas, to be implemented after we have approved the completed report. Tim said he has one handwritten letter and asked the committee if it should be xeroxed or typed. After discussion we agreed that xeroxing was better. We discussed the next steps. We agreed to meet next on June 29. Hopefully the appendices will be completed then and the committee can review the completed report. Then we'll have one more meeting on July 13 at which we should be able to approve the completed report. We agreed to meet next on June 29 at 4pm at The Woods. The agenda will be: - approve minutes of previous meeting - reports on recent events - official Airport Advisory Committee - approve report on GPS instrument approach - agree on agenda for next meeting Joel reminded the committee that we had discussed taking committee members for airplane rides to see the neighborhood. It turned out that Susan Winding was the only member who had wanted a ride. Joel then asked if we should follow up on noise abatement test flights. Gail said that the Coast Guard flights are certainly very impressive and noisy. She asked if they could vary their flight pattern. Tim said that he mailed the Coast Guard a copy of our noise abatement policy and a map showing the noise sensitive areas, but hasn't heard back from the Coast Guard yet. We also invited them to come to one of our meetings. Joel said that the Coast Guard aircraft fly a standard pattern, larger in size and higher than smaller aircraft. Trey moved to adjourn the meeting. Ad Hoc Airport Committee voting members: ----------------------------------------- Joel Bornstein pilot, flight instructor lives near airport Trey Loy non-pilot, lives near airport Jack Reichel pilot, businessman Tim Scully pilot, computer programmer, lives near airport commutes by air to Oakland weekly Ray Yates non-pilot, Albion businessman Fran Tucker non-pilot, neighbor of the airport manages the Woods Ad Hoc Committee alternate members: ----------------------------------- Michael Moore pilot, economist Dick Ahrens pilot airport neighbor Susan Winding airport neighbor, non-pilot, local business owner