From: Joel Bornstein
Sent: Monday, June 02, 1997 12:04 AM
To: Dave Brewer; Dick Ahrens; Jack Reichel; Tim Scully;

Subject: more minutes

Hi,

Just in case you can't read the previous enclosure, here it is again.


Minutes of the Member's Meeting of


LITTLE RIVER AIRPORT PILOTS' ASSOCIATION
a California nonprofit public benefit corporation



A regular meeting of the Directors and Members was held on June 1, 1997,
at two o'clock P.M. at Coast Flyers meeting room, for the purpose of
transacting all proper business of the corporation.

The meeting was called by the President at the last meeting. Written
notice of this meeting was sent to interested parties. Notice was
publicly posted.

There were present, the following persons:

	Tim Scully		
	Joel Bornstein		
	Jack Reichel		
	Dick Ahrens		

Tim brought a series of maps depicting the noise sensitive areas as well
as the airport boundaries, approach and departure paths, etc.  These
maps are intended to be developed for use in our noise abatement
efforts.  

We started to discuss the maps when our guest speaker, Mr George
Loegering, Vice President of the California Pilots Association,
arrived.  

Tim introduced George to our group and described the creation and
development of the Ad Hoc Committee and the Little River Airport Pilots
Association.  He spoke of the original meeting at which Supervisor
Peterson suggested that we start the Ad Hoc Committee.  Tim explained
how the committee has developed over the years since it was started.  He
also talked about the noise abatement policy and the neighborhood
involvement in it's development.  The hangar issue was mentioned, also.

George suggested that the only way that we are to succeed in protecting
our interests is to form a county-wide committee.  There should be two
representatives from each airport.  There should be meetings 3-4 times
yearly.  This group should decide how to distribute the money which
comes in annually from various governmental sources.  He pointed out
that all funds, whether for county or city run or private airports, come
through the county.  The group can lobby the county to apply for the
appropriate grants and to work toward improving the airports.  Only that
type of group has the power to stop the airports' deterioration due to
the county's benign neglect.  George says they will eventually point out
that the airports are no longer viable and will move to close them.  He
suggests that we must include a county representative on the committee,
so that the county can really understand what we are trying to
accomplish.  

Dick said we have 119 pilots on our mailing list.  George feels that is
a great base from which to draw representatives as well as favorable
numbers of votes.

George said that Covelo has a man named Bob Cook, who acts as their
spokesperson.  Covelo is afraid the county may close the airport.  The
have security problems there.  They want the help a county-wide group
could bring.

Tim mentioned the county's policy of not applying for grant money
because of the obligations it brings.  George was surprised.  He said he
thinks a county-wide committee could force the reversal of such a
policy.  

Jack asked if all counties have county-wide groups of airport
representatives?  George answered,  "Yes".

George mentioned "Roger's law".  It pertains to airport committees.  It
requires counties to have airport advisory committees, as well as
airport land use committees.  

George suggested that we could get an impressive list of airport
supporters by taking local business people for rides and getting them to
join our group with a small, "non-pilot" membership fee.  

George said also that the airport master plan must be redone every ten
years in order to be eligible for state or federal grant money.  Our
plan will be due for review in the year 2000. 

We discussed the diversion of airport funds.  The California Pilots
Association is suing the City of Torrance for diversion of funds over a
long period.  All airport income is accountable.  "Hard" or "soft";
income must still be included.  The airport can achieve self sufficiency
by setting aside land for hangars, logging, etc.  George wants
information on the timber harvest at the airport, last year.  He wants
to discuss it with Jay White, California Pilots Association president.

President Clinton wants to cut off ADAP (Airport Development Assistance
Program) funds.

This year, Trinity County received $375,000 for planning airport
management/improvements.

The county can provide us with a list of all aircraft owners.  We can
use it to solicit their support.

George concluded his presentation/discussion and received thanks for
taking the time to come to visit with us.

Dick left the meeting in order to open the Woods clubhouse for the Ad
Hoc meeting, which follows.

Jack asked why so few people come to our meetings.  Tim thinks they
might not be well enough informed.  We've not produced a newsletter as
yet.  We might get more turnout if we could encourage their involvement.

Joel asked that we write a letter to Department of Public Works to
remind them of Budge's promise to do the noise abatement signs and to
notify the airport guides of the new noise abatement policy.  Tim agreed
to do that.

We spent a few minutes more discussing the noise abatement maps.

We agreed that the next meeting of the Little River Airport Pilots
Association will be held on June 29th at 2:00 pm at Coast Flyers.

There being no further business to come before the meeting, we adjourned
at 3:50 o'clock pm.,  on motion duly made and carried.


Joel Bornstein, Secretary