From: Joel Bornstein & Judith Barry Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 11:24 AM To: Dave Brewer; Dick Ahrens; Jack Reichel; Joel; Tim Scully Subject: Minutes, 2/15 Hi, Here are the draft minutes of the Feb 15th meeting. Please submit any changes or suggestions ASAP. Thanks, Joel ========================= Minutes of the Member's Meeting of LITTLE RIVER AIRPORT PILOTS' ASSOCIATION a California nonprofit public benefit corporation *OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE HELD AT COAST FLYERS ON MARCH 15, 1998 AT 2 O'CLOCK P.M.* A regular meeting of the Directors and Members was held on Feb 15, 1997, at two o'clock P.M. at Coast Flyers meeting room, for the purpose of conducting all proper business of the corporation. The meeting was called by those present at the last meeting. Written notice of this meeting was sent to interested parties. Notice was publicly posted. There were present, the following persons: Dick Ahrens Dave Brewer Joel Bornstein Tim Scully Les Proctor John Merriman Tim opened the meeting with an announcement that Richard Gallagher is interested in finding aircraft owners who might be needing biennial pitot-static and transponder checks for their aircraft. He needs his done in March or April and suggests that others might wish to join him. Tim suggested that this sort of coordination might be useful for us to perform. Dave Brewer asked if any other pilots find that the OAK ARTCC is slow to identify their aircraft on southeast departure from O48. He frequently isn't in radar coverage until he's about 10-15 miles beyond ENI. Do others have similar problems to report? Joel said this is routine in the Cessna 172 that he flies regularly. Tim was contacted by Red Hamilton of Virgin Creek Airport, who said that his wife wrote a letter to the Fort Bragg Advocate-News in favor of the improvement of the Little River Airport. He said, also, that he might be able to supply a couple of people who are willing to help us with the segmented circle project. Joel asked about the possibility of circulating a petition through the community which would indicate support of the Little River Airport and the desirability of improvement of its services. Dave suggested that we may not need additional support right now. At his suggestion, we decided to discuss that at a later time. Tim has reports that some people have been questioning the airport management in UKI and elsewhere regarding Little River's possible GPS approach. Les Proctor has contacted the manager of UKI, Don Bua, who will send a letter to Little River. Tim found that he does not have a sample code of conduct to present to The Little River Airport Advisory Committee at its meeting this afternoon. A code must be adopted as a necessary step in establishing the committee. Tim and others will provide coffee, tea, cookies, etc. for The Little River Airport Advisory Committee meeting. Tim has a copy of Stan Townsend's letter to the F.A.A. regarding the Mendocino County Board of Supervisors request that the F.A.A. be informed of the impending GPS request for Little River Airport. Ron Clenney is now the F.A.A. representative who is involved with the acquisition of our GPS approach. He told Tim that we might expect to wait for about one year from the date of application before getting an approach certified for the Little River Airport. Tim then read the concerns stated by the new committee members in their letters to the Mendocino County Board of Supervisors: Susan Winding's are: 1- The GPS approach could have an effect on UKI IFR traffic. 2- GPS will benefit IFR pilots only, to the exclusion of VFR pilots. Is this fair? 3- According to one pilot, IFR flight is more dangerous than VFR flight. 4- The possible 10% increase in traffic due to the GPS approach is too vague. 5- Why was Little River Airport not compared with other coastal airports such as Monterey, San Luis Obispo, etc. in the report? A new survey of local pilots may be necessary. Do we have an adequate mailing list? Can we update it? Tim said that several research projects may be necessary. Dave cautioned against further polarization in The Little River Airport Advisory Committee. We agreed that we want to do all we can to make the others feel that we are willing to work with them to allay their fears and concerns. Tim then read the concerns noted in Willow Trent's letter: 1- The data >from surveyed airports is too new. We need a more comprehensive database. 2- The GPS approach will benefit too few people. 3- Will it be used in daylight hours only? 4- The committee was made up with too many pilots who have GPS in their airplanes. 5- She requests time for more research. Tim said that the new members want more airports to be surveyed, more weather data and accident statistics for Little River Airport as well as all of aviation. It was suggested that the Aircraft owners and Pilots Association and the California Pilots Association might be good sources of information. Tim said that the creation of several sub-committees will help to ease the workload. Dick cautioned that we must be sure to document absolutely everything done at The Little River Airport Advisory Committee meetings extremely well. Tim said he thought that few of the Oaths of Office have been received by the clerk of the Mendocino County Board of Supervisors in UKI. We will not be able to vote on anything at the meeting. We spoke briefly of what we might expect to transpire at The Little River Airport Advisory Committee meeting. Tim said he had information on a plastic coating for sealing hangar roofs, that might be useful. He proposed getting the hangar owners together to form a cooperative effort, for the economical application of the treatment. His hangar and many others are leaking badly. The Monterey airport has used the coating which would be purchased in bulk, to be applied by a local contractor. Dave volunteered to research further. Dick announced that the F.A.A. safety seminar has been scheduled for March 17th at 7:00pm at the Woods. The probable topics will be FAR part 61 revisions and Safer Landing Techniques. We discussed the segmented circle project. The recommendation is for a 100 foot circle. It will involve at least 23 blocks, each containing a yard or more of concrete. We spoke of how we might be able to manage this project. It is much larger than we had anticipated. Will we have to build all the forms at one time or can we do some and then move them to other locations for later filling? Les suggested that he might be able to get a grant for the expense, which will be quite substantial. We decided to postpone scheduling the project until more information is in. The minutes of the December and the January meetings were accepted. Dick aked for and received reimbursement of the expenses incurred on the last mailing. We had a discussion on Les' suggestion that a Coke machine and snack vending machine would be desirable for the airport office. It was agreed that Les and John would confer on that possibility. There being no further business to come before the meeting, we adjourned at 3:20 o'clock pm, on motion duly made and carried. Joel Bornstein, Secretary